Wentworth Street Car Park

A question to Ryedale Council (Julian Rudd) Late November 2010
Below is an exchange of E-Mails between myself and Julian Rudd. I asked him to clarify the amount of car parking spaces that would be available if we were to have a developement on The Wentworth Street Car Park.. The final question, dated 20th Dec 2010, was not answered and I have now given up all hope to get an answer. We can only guess the answer is, there are no conditions, so they, who ever ther are, could at any time take the right away to park in their car park. That would be very very bad for Malton ?????

Sent: 28th Nov 2010
To: Julian Rudd
Subject: Re: Wentworth Street Car Park

Hello,
There are 254 car parking spaces in the Wentworth Street car park we need a simple answer to a simple question. No excuses, if and when, just the plain facts. How many spaces, after your proposed development, will be available for the general public to use as they do now, with no conditions or restrictions from the developer.

David Wakeley

Sent: 29th November 2010
To: David Wakeley
Subject: Re: Wentworth Street Car Park

Dear Mr Wakeley,

Under the proposal put forward by the selected bidder there would be around 330 spaces on what is the current lower deck and adjacent RDC owned land (currently occupied by Community House, the scouts, CAB and former Red Cross building) . In addition there will remain around 150 spaces on the existing upper deck, which is being retained by RDC. This gives a total of around 480 spaces at Wentworth Street, all of which would be free for use by anyone visiting the town centre for 3 hours, irregardless of whether they were shopping at the new stores built at Wentworth Street. Stay of longer than 3 hours would be available in 220 of the 480 spaces (150 on the Council’s retained area plus 70 of the spaces provided as part of the development), subject to an appropriate fee.
I hope the clarifies the situation.

Regards

Julian Rudd

Sent: 29 November 2010 17:17
To: Julian Rudd
Subject: Re: Wentworth Street Car Park

Hello Julian,
Not quite clear on what is meant by 'would be free for use by anyone visiting the town centre for 3 hours' do you mean free and without charge or free to use with a charge.

Regards
David.

Sent: 29 November 2010 20:35
To: David Wakeley
Subject: Re: Wentworth Street Car Park

David

All 480 spaces would be free for up to 3 hours – longer stays (over 3 hours) would be possible in 220 of the 480 spaces but would be chargeable.

Cheers

Julian

20th Dec 2010

The following question has been sent to Julian Rudd? As yet there is no reply. Perhaps the answer is for the councils ears only. I will send the question again in the new year, when they get themselves back to work, and let's hope we get an answer.

Julian,
Just one more concern. What conditions, if any, would be placed on the 'selected bidder' to restrict any changes to the initial agreement of both the amount of car parks and the 3 hours free parking. Lets face it they could and almost certainly would simply change the arrangements. when and if it suited them.

David.

28th Nov 2010
I have just noticed a document regarding the Local Development Framework (LDF) which as one of it's aims for shops in Malton is to "Support existing shops by attracting more people into the town". You have to ask the question, Just where are you going to park their cars. A little joined up thinking would not go amiss I think.

18th Nov 2010
"I have asked questions day after day, and I have been given answers which tell me I must support this proposal for the interest of the community." (Howard Keel, Gazette & Herald)..........
What a joke! Petitions, marches and 170 protestors at the meeting at Malton school. Just what will help this man in his delusionary little world. We must have this decision deferred until May next year when the voters of Ryedale can have a real say at the next council elections

On 29 July 2010 Ryedale District Council resolved to sell The Wentworth Street Car Park and other surrounding land and buildings for development as a supermarket. Seventeen councilors, mainly conservatives, sat on their backsides, said nothing and voted to sell the car park that was set aside seventy years ago provide parking for you the people of Ryedale. DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT, so please please, ring or write to your councilor and let them know what you think..... You can find who you voted for by clicking this link. Don't be complacent, there is little time and if you don't pester them, they will do as they like.

The purpose of this resolution is to raise money while the council sits on a relative fortune. There are no debts to repay.

It is likely that Community House (home of Ryedale Voluntary Action, CAB and Red Cross), Ryedale in Touch centre, the Malton Scout & Guide Centre, The Rifle Club and the public toilets will be closed or relocated.

Despite promises by developers to retain or increase the total car park provision, it is likely that the Livestock Market Vehicle parking and all day parking will be lost. How will the council control the supermarket parking arrangements (and penalties for overstaying your welcome) alter sale. Developers tend to have experts who can run rings round Planning Decisions and Council Planning Departments. Control by this method is unlikely to succeed.

What is the prospect of the rest of the town centre becoming a ghost town'?
What about the additional traffic? How much will this development add to the already high traffic flows through Malton?
There is some useful information in the following link, please take a moment to read them

Wentworth Street report to Council July 2010 final report 16 07 2010, item 35. PDF 135 KB
Fitzwilliam Estate letterpdf, item 35. PDF 62 KB
MaltonTC letter, item 35. PDF 114 KB
Annex A for Council 29 July 2010 - amended area for disposal - Wentworth Street Plan, item 35. PDF 520 KB
NortononDerwentTCletter, item 35. PDF 49 KB
If you can't read these documents, click here, to download the reader

A councillor at Ryedale Council, his name is withheld to deny him unnecessary publicity, wants to deny you the convenience of parking in the market place by getting rid of over 60 car parking spaces to create a pedestrian area. This is a loss of 10% of the total parking space in the town. See the strategy report below. Please help Malton traders by letting these loonies know what you think to this stupid idea. Don't forget, we need more car parking places to survive, not less. If these councillors want a pedestrian area, I suggest Ryedale House car park and then we can see how they like walking in the January snow from the Wentworth street car park to council chamber, that is assuming they have not got rid of Wentworth Street C/P as well. Please, Please continue to visit our shops in Malton and the rest of our Ryedale towns, and if we can get these madcap councillors to listen, we will do what we can to make your visit as easy as possible.
Please vote 'NO'.
Vote 'Yes' and help close another shop .....................Result : 189 against 48 for..

The vote has now finished and the result could not have been clearer. 189 against and only 48 for. You would have to be a councilor to believe there was a consensus for the development. Please let your councilor know what you think of the idea, and help Malton remain a trading town. Do not let them turn us into a rustic curio.

A Strategy for Malton Town Centre
WSP Group and Atisreal Report for Ryedale District Council and Yorkshire Forward.

The council have been at it again. Spending your money, asking a London based company what should happen to our town. The report has been presented to Ryedale Council and Yorkshire forward and they should keep it. The observations of our little town, by the London firm, are excellent, BUT their conclusion beggars belief. Getting rid of over 40 car parking spaces in the market place will only chase off the very pedestrians needed to fill the trendy pedestrian terraces that will replace the car park spaces. That's only the start, so please download the PDF file below (sorry about the size), take the time to read it, and then let the council or this web site know what you think. I know we can't compare Malton directly with Monks Cross, but I bet they are not thinking of getting rid of one parking space. Don't be complacent, these people are messing about with our town and if we don't act now they will ride rough shod over the lot of us.

(Download PDF) - Strategy for Malton Email - ryedale.co.uk Email - The Council

*MALTON LIVESTOCK MARKET PLANNING APPEAL* Planning consultants GVA have lodged an appeal on behalf of the Fitzwilliam Malton Estate against the recent decision by Ryedale District Council to refuse the planning application for the redevelopment of the livestock market site in Malton. Proceedings, in which the reasons for the refusal will be challenged, will now be decided by the Planning Inspectorate. Further information will be issued when known.
	*Yet another poll,* this time by the Malton Gazette & Herald - April 2012. More or less in line with the others before it. The vast majority against the decision and yet another staggering example of a council that once elected, does just what it want's with no regard to the people who voted them into office. If councilors want us to treat them with respect, please show a little to us, the voters.....
*Application for a new cafe in Pickering,* got this response from Coun Vivienne Knaggs who said she was concerned because Pickering already had 28 eateries, adding: “The more we get the more thinly spread will be the business they do. ” Malton Gazette & Herld - 13th July 2011 - There you go just change your mind and views when it suits you.
SEVEN COUNCILORS WHO VOTED TO SELL THE CAR PARK ARE NO LONGER THERE. 4 were pushed....3 Jumped ( Well done Ryedale Voters) Lets get rid of the rest at the next coucil elections
The survey on this web site, reached 100 responses and the results are as follows... Definitely Not or No -- To the sale 86 Yes - To the sale 11 Not Bothered 3 Well that's another resounding vote against the development. Where did Councilor, sorry Mr Keel get his impression that the development was popular, see below. Any chance of letting us know some time soon